Greek Court Rules Against Water Privatisation On Public Health Grounds

Greek Court Rules Against Water Privatisation On Public Health Grounds

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HRADF the Greek agency tasked with privatising everything they can sell for the Troika has been told by a State court that it cannot privatise water as operating water for profit poses a risk to public health

The court ruling

The State Council notes that the conversion EYDAP into a private company encounters articles of the Constitution requiring the state care of the public health and the right to its protection.

“The practical conversion of the public company into a private one that operates for profit,makes the continuity of supplying affordable and high quality utilities uncertain., the judges stressed.

The articles show the tip toe privatisation of water that has happened in Greece,. They are some way further ahead in the process of being asset stripped than Ireland at the moment, selling even their best 110 beaches to private companies to develop. They are a road map for us though.

The articles also highlight that the union involved organised a referendum of over 220,000 people that was carried by 98% against, This was irrelevant to their government though who do not listen to what the people want, they work for other entities. The new Ireland is no different.

I would like to call on all Irish constitutional scholars to examine this ruling and how it may be pertinent to our own constitution or even the EU charter on human rights. If it is felt the profit motive is detrimental to the security and quality of public health then we may be able to bring a challenge.

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14 Comments

  • Posted July 1, 2014

    William Grogan

    The idea of DD and libertarian values are completely contrary to Trade Union ideals. The Trade Union movement is very much linked to socialism and communism not to mention dictatorships. If we are to get rid of as many politicians and self serving inefficient civil servants as possible we have to increase privatisation. The notion that socialist water is safer than private water is obviously absurd.

    • Posted July 1, 2014

      Admin D

      Can we not have an efficiently run public water service? or do you mean the unions make it overmanned? Not sure what you mean

      • Posted July 1, 2014

        William Grogan

        Nothing the civil or public service runs can be efficient. Even the civil servants call the Office of Public Works, the office that doesn’t work. The Trade Unions are part of it. The lack of competition, the lack of incentive, interference by politicians, etc make it impossible. That’s why socialism and communism always fail. Aer Lingus when it ran the Irish airline industry charged me two and a half weeks wages to get from London to Cork. Ryanair charge 2 hours pay. The current water system is very inefficient, duplicating many functions, it doesn’t charge for usage, and it’s overall shambolic. That’s why Ireland were made change it.

        • Posted July 1, 2014

          Admin D

          Totally agree there is lots of waste and a huge lack of will to change that. I often see 8 men 3 vehicles and a digger turn up to fix one leaking stopcock. That can be challenged. There are other ways like autonomous local authorities that raise, keep and spend their own community finance. This means every penny has to be accounted for because it is their own money they are spending. That kind of waste is no longer tolerated.

  • Posted July 1, 2014

    Alan

    Everywhere that has privatized water, it’s gone to the dogs. You do realize that the next step is to outlaw the collection of rain water, and then you’re really up the creek.

    It will get worse, a lot worse because the people are ignorant and divided. If you think otherwise I suggest you look at the main focus of any private company.

    • Posted July 2, 2014

      William Grogan

      Alan, re “Everywhere that has privatized water, it’s gone to the dogs”? Evidence?? Any private company that fails to deliver what its customers want or fails to innovate goes bust. It’s a great mechanism.

      • Posted July 2, 2014

        Admin D

        In a perfect world that would be true but our version of capitalism has private profits and socialised debt and the contracts are awarded through cronyism. Nobody ever gets punished for a bad job done in Ireland and get private monopolies as a reward

        • Posted July 2, 2014

          William Grogan

          Then work to remove the interference by politicians, civil servants, county councillors, golden circles and crooks in the free market not destroy it.

          • Posted July 2, 2014

            Admin D

            Why not do both?

      • Posted July 2, 2014

        Alan

        Yes it’s true that any private company that fails to deliver will go bust, but that only applies when people can choose to not buy from the company. In the case of Irish Water this will not be the case, you won’t have a choice (until more companies come into the picture, due to EU competition rules, which will take years if at all)

        Irish Water will not go bust, it will charge people through the eye balls for water, the people will get annoyed, the politicians wanting to make a name for themselves will come out against Irish Water and say the state should take it back. Then the state will use tax revenue to buy back the company……just like they did with the M50 toll.

        re “Everywhere that has privatized water, it’s gone to the dogs”? Evidence??
        France – Paris
        US – Detroit (What we’re in for make no mistake)
        Africa – People removing water meters
        US – Oregon – Man gets arrested for collecting rain water on his own land (good luck mr & mrs small farmer)

        • Posted July 2, 2014

          William Grogan

          “As of 2010, according to the Ministry of Environment 75% of water and 50% of sanitation services in France are provided by the private sector”. The Motorway system in France is also private. Yet France is a socialist country. Where’s the gone to the dogs issue here? Detroit City is gone bust!! They’re selling off the water because they couldn’t manage the city’s finances. I’m not going to bother looking at your other “examples”.

          • Posted July 2, 2014

            Alan

            Detroit – They’re selling off the water because they couldn’t manage the city’s finances.

            Ireland – They’re selling off the water to try and manage the countries debt. Wonder what they will sell when they realize they the can’t manage the countries finances?

            For the people that have the money it will be fine, for the rest that don’t….well.

            If you think it’s a good idea to have a private for profit company in control of your water supply, I hope you have the budget for the incoming price hikes.

            *If you think they will put the profit back in to revamp the system, then I don’t know what to tell you.

            *Water = The new Oil

            Oh and just because a private company is in charge doesn’t mean that they will do better than the previous public service did. The only guarantee you have is that in private hands it will be more expensive.

  • Posted July 2, 2014

    tirnanog33

    mass boycott of bills.?

    • Posted July 2, 2014

      William Grogan

      Perhaps a mass boycott first of crap food, McDonalds, Coca Cola, Pizza chains and the sellers of sweets, cakes etc

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